I'm gutted ! Having said that onwards and upwards ! I am sure Liam knows what he wants and will mould a team to survive this season. Fresh start and in Liam I trust !
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YORK sign Charles Gash and....
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Posted 1 year ago #
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It is a blow losing Barrett but at the end of the day, it's his trade and for six days a week football is a business, so you can understand him moving on....
I still feel Liam will come good for us this season, but realistically, our aim quite simply has to be to stay in the league...
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Login to Send PMmy aim for the coming season is just to stay up forget mid-table and above, anything above 21st will please me!
Finally!
I'm getting through.
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I'm affraid that unless we have a large budget increase within the next couple of weeks, we will be watching a very defensive style of play next season (Long ball, spoil and hang on for a point, type of stuff) even then I wouldn't put our chances of finnishing 21st or above, much better than 5 to 10%.
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The problem is will that type of football increase our support and future budget?
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Still the club has got what it deserves by jumping into bed with MyFC.
How about you go find someone willing to spit in the half a million pounds a year our club needs to contend for promotion. Hmmmm? Not easy finding bed partners is it? I guess we'll be sharing those fleas after all
V This is a problem I have been trying to come to terms with. I have not re joined this year because of these doubts. MyFc is an idea that could it work sensibly has many things going for it. But it does need numbers to maintain a sensible budget and we just don't have them. My worry is that we are now trying to cope with an unrealistic one, which in the end will benefit no one! I will still go to games and help Fleet wherever I can, but have a feeling that we could now be standing in the way of someone coming in with a more suitable budget for running a club at this level. My point of joining MyFc was to help a club, I am now wondering if our present stucture is just a hinderence to the clubs future progress? Something I woundn't want to be part of.
A possible answer would be for MyFc to sell 51% of their shares (with maybe a buy back clause in 3 years dependind on whether the membership could be built up in that time, if not maybe the option to donate the remaining shares to the new owners! This would make the club an attractive buy at this current time I would have thought. With the bonus that if MyFc are able to get their act together they would still have an attractive BSP side to run in the future.Posted 1 year ago # -
That would leave us with one owner/group holding 38% another holding 37% and the old guard holding 25%. That doesn't sound like a very good prospect to me Jim.
Unless of course it was the old guard that brought the 38% holding which would leave MyFC as a minority shareholder with just 37%, not a very attractive prospect for MyFC I would think.
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Could be worse....they could "own" the toilet seat in trap two at Fleet leisure......which is what I "own" and is up for sale at £2k if anyone is interested ?
Cheers,
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I'm affraid that unless we have a large budget increase within the next couple of weeks, we will be watching a very defensive style of play next season (Long ball, spoil and hang on for a point, type of stuff) even then I wouldn't put our chances of finnishing 21st or above, much better than 5 to 10%.
Didn't do any of Howard Wilkinson's teams ( Sheff Wed & Leeds ) any harm. Would you accept 9 sh*tty 1-0 wins out of the first ten games ?
Yes....it's nice to play attractive football....if you can afford the players that can do it ( it's not an amusement arcade HG !).
Give me a boring 1-0 win over an entertaining 4-4 draw anyday !! Points make prizes Brian !
Cheers,
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Still the club has got what it deserves by jumping into bed with MyFC.
How about you go find someone willing to spit in the half a million pounds a year our club needs to contend for promotion. Hmmmm? Not easy finding bed partners is it? I guess we'll be sharing those fleas after all
V This is a problem I have been trying to come to terms with. I have not re joined this year because of these doubts. MyFc is an idea that could it work sensibly has many things going for it. But it does need numbers to maintain a sensible budget and we just don't have them. My worry is that we are now trying to cope with an unrealistic one, which in the end will benefit no one! I will still go to games and help Fleet wherever I can, but have a feeling that we could now be standing in the way of someone coming in with a more suitable budget for running a club at this level. My point of joining MyFc was to help a club, I am now wondering if our present stucture is just a hinderence to the clubs future progress? Something I woundn't want to be part of.
A possible answer would be for MyFc to sell 51% of their shares (with maybe a buy back clause in 3 years dependind on whether the membership could be built up in that time, if not maybe the option to donate the remaining shares to the new owners! This would make the club an attractive buy at this current time I would have thought. With the bonus that if MyFc are able to get their act together they would still have an attractive BSP side to run in the future.Fair enough, Jimbo. I understand your reservations, and there is no guarantee that we can sustain or grow our numbers. The only thing that will help retention and recruitment is success: success on or off the pitch. If we have a against-all-odds successful football season, that will help. If we get things right (and they have been improving - you really should come back, mate) off the pitch with club management then that will help. What that all adds up to come February is anyone's guess (cue The Doom Squad).
Taking that one step further - this year we're paying off last year's mistakes as you know - if we can weather this financially tough year and retain say 7,000 members (just to prove it even works with lower numbers) then we can contribute about £180K to the club - nearly double what we're putting in this year and an improvement of nearly £2K/ week on the playing budget to make it £7K before player sales. If we can increase membership to 10,000 you can add a fair amount more. It is all possible if we work hard, pull together, and keep the faith. For a realistic promotion prospect though, Liam has indicated a £15K/ week playing budget - that means an extra £400K on top of the £100K we're putting in this year...
But there are no guarantees we can make the budget grow much in the future, so if someone else comes along with a solid and realistic £500K/ year commitment I'd be hard pressed to stand in their way as a member. Can't see that happening though.
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V, I don’t believe for a moment that members or fans, such as yourself, have anything but the very best intentions for the club to succeed! I worked for much of my life in football, from youth sides to Div 1 clubs (before the Premiership days) and abroad, even Norway
and I’m now nearing 70! The one thing all these clubs I was involved with over that time had in common was the problem of playing budgets. I can honestly say that those who had the most success, were those who took the largest gambles (not the best policy in most business environments I know, but football is a slightly different business which requires some degree of chances being taken to succeed.) When it came to club directors and committees that brought in restrictive first team budgets to try and balance the books etc. it rarely, if ever worked. The problem is that football is a dream entertainment business (show biz if you like) to be at the top you need to develop interest and be able to sustain it! The first team is the club, in the way the fans and opposition see it. It is the single most important thing to get right! To be successful we need to be recruiting hundreds of new fans and have available a minimum budget of £15k per 52 week period, we will not achieve this without some drastic changes. Nibbling around the edges re. local recruitment drives and ticket discounts etc., will not bring in the numbers we need, nor will begging the extra couple of bob off of the already committed member and supporter ever be enough to cover the budget we need now to ensure the clubs future in the coming season IMO. Yet we are taking an even bigger gamble with this club, by risking every chance of relegation at the end of the season – how will we ever be able to make the vast amount of money back that this will cost the club should the worst ever happen? I bring these points up, not because I believe that the members would ever want this to happen, but because I believe they will want the best for Ebbsfleet! It maybe just beyond their capabilities to deliver at this moment in time however and have opened up this as a discussion point, to perhaps look outside the box and try to find other ways that may really work. With our member’s internet and advertising skills etc. available to us, it may not be too late to find some sort of workable partnership even at this late hour …. much better that than causing the collapse of a club, though improper funding! If we leave this till next season who knows where we will be and what will the club be worth then … and how much harder will that be find a suitable ownership? I believe for MyFc to have been successful at this level we would have needed to supply a budget of £15k this season and would have wanted £20k the following, so the £7k you are talking about for next year will still leave us struggling somewhere at the bottom even if we can achieve a minor miracle and survive this campaign! I’m afraid it’s very much a matter of percentages, last year we had just below the average budget and we finished in a league position that reflected it. This year we have one of the lowest! Some times with this game a miracle happens, but only occasionally, let’s all hope it’s our lucky year!
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last year we had just below the average budget and we finished in a league position that reflected it.
I don't think that about 16 games in a month helped that cause
Sure a bigger budget would have meant a bigger squad but would results have been any different given the amount of chopping and changing you would have had to do with that schedule?
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The word on our forum is the deal for Charles and Gash has fallen through due to personal circumstances. Come on harry spill the beans.
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LOL
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Skippy can you post the link for that?
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Skippy can you post the link for that?
http://www.yorkcityfc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25916&start=180
Revel in the madness.
Latest goss is pregnant girlfriend does not want to move north
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Hmmmmmm
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Hmmmmmm
It seems the club officially announced the deal was done before contracts were signed. Go figure.
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That's entertainment!
There'll be some red faces in York tomorrow morning!
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I'm affraid that unless we have a large budget increase within the next couple of weeks, we will be watching a very defensive style of play next season (Long ball, spoil and hang on for a point, type of stuff) even then I wouldn't put our chances of finnishing 21st or above, much better than 5 to 10%.
and i wonder how many people will be willing to pay £15 to watch that, not many i feel
Posted 1 year ago # -
Good point Jamie. Labour it again why don't you?
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That's entertainment!
There'll be some red faces in York tomorrow morning!Add this to the loss of the Satanta money and it's bad news for both clubs. There is no guarantee another club is now going to stump up 80K
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Confirmed on MyFC -
deal is off - one of the players didn't agree personal terms.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Now we can keep them..... com'n all MyFc members, all we have to do is chip in £1k each a week.... job done!
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Owners !!!....not members !! I owned something once......but I sold it !!
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