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York bid for Darius - REJECTED!!
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Posted 1 year ago #
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I don't think long balls punted from gk to gk count. If he had the service from the wings like george and shakes actually being able to beat the first defender with their crosses but mind you at least shakes improved. What people didn't realise at the time is that gash is still young and he was untried at this level and like most strikers he had a bit of a drought mid season.
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... we must keep our better players so that LD can build a team around them
Exactly my view - and I'm a geek.
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We have a basis of a team A Class Goalkeeper A Class Defender An Up and coming Midfielder/Winger and A Good Striker i agree totally we need to keep these so LD can build around them!
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Need to Vote No till it gets too at least 80-100k even more!
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hear hear rob but i wouldnt sell them. ive supported the fleet for 25 years and darius is one of the best defenders that we have had on our books and that means a lot.
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there is no point in selling Gash or Darius as we all know they are a major part of the making of the team for next season and it should take a massive offer that we just cannot afford to turn down to prise them away. The same should be applied to Michael West if an offer should come in cause I think he will become on e of our biggest players next season.
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After reading the thread on the myfc forum, there is NO CHANCE that this offer will be accepted, most if not all the members will vote no to this rediculous and insulting offer.
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Daves nan what im on about is that morrison in my eyes is overrated and how many of his goals i wonder were from the penalty spot. Michael isnt the big target man as morrison is. Gash plays off the front man and chases balls down and is a team player.
Goals win games. Therefore, players who have a knack for accumulating large sums of them, regardless of the perceived standard of their overall game, will inevitably be worth their large transfer fees.
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Offer rejected by 1977 (96.72%) NO votes.
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After reading the thread on the myfc forum, there is NO CHANCE that this offer will be accepted, most if not all the members will vote no to this rediculous and insulting offer.
Less than 2,000 voted NO
Yes, I know the usual excuses - but MyFC members need to cop on and realise that they ARE responsible for what happens.
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... we must keep our better players so that LD can build a team around them
Exactly my view - and I'm a geek.
My view as well, and I'm also a geek!
Imo the vote result demonstrates that we mean business as fans and owners. This club is not there to be picked over, and we're standing firm with the intention of helping Liam build as competitive a squad as possible for next season. If any club wants to make a serious offer for any player they are welcome to, but if they try to take the piss they will be laughed at by the owners as surely as they would be by Liam - and being laughed at by thousands has to hurt
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Less than 2,000 voted NO
Yes, I know the usual excuses - but MyFC members need to cop on and realise that they ARE responsible for what happens.2,044 voted in just 21 Hours.
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Login to Send PMAfter reading the thread on the myfc forum, there is NO CHANCE that this offer will be accepted, most if not all the members will vote no to this rediculous and insulting offer.
Less than 2,000 voted NO
Yes, I know the usual excuses - but MyFC members need to cop on and realise that they ARE responsible for what happens.Couldn't agree more.
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MyFC votes have always been (it seems by the published numbers) in the vast minority. I wonder if the numbers might have benn greater in this case, if more information had been made available about the financial implications (without releasing Darius's wages) as to whether the Club can afford to keep him and also Liams thoughts on a possible tranfer.
Just asking people to vote without such information being made available to the "owners"(I use that word in the sense MyFC use it ) seems wrong!Posted 1 year ago # -
I wonder if York will come back with a second offer?
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I wonder if York will come back with a second offer?
If they do we will have to add a second finger to our response.
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....we could say £300k may prompt us to review ? then they would run a mile.....or whatever the metric equivalent is of that !!...in these politically correct european times !!
Cheers,
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I think trying to spin the voting response as showing a lack of interest is way wide of the mark here. I only just spotted the vote was on in time to vote & I get criticised by the Powers That Be for "always being on those football sites." To get over 2,000 voting in less than 24 hours is pretty good going & a pretty good sign. If more of these votes come flying in, more people will be motivated to log on every day to check & those MyFCers who want to feel more involved will do so. The forums over there have been galvanized by the votes on Michael & Darius. I could be way wrong, but from the discussion thresd, I expect the offer for Michael to be rejected too.
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10K - what an insult!
Ever get the impression that other clubs think we are in deep trouble and can take the players we do have for next to nothing!Agree Tadd - 1st bids often are - Unfortunately opening our transfer business to the Web is always going to be a handicap to us. If our finacial position was strong then we would still be handicapped by clubs trying to sell their players to us at inflated amounts - we are in a Lose-Lose situation with this policy.
I can understand the MyFc members wishing to have a say in the club they own, so although it is a weakness that disadvantages EUFC, I think it is one we will have to put up with and much less damaging to the club than picking the team would have been IMO.
Yes, there are disadvantages to the MyFc form of ownership, but we should not forget that most other forms are far from perfect also, given time (and a bit of support), this might yet prove to be the best way forward for clubs like the Fleet!Posted 1 year ago # -
I wonder if York will come back with a second offer?
If they do we will have to add a second finger to our response.
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Unfortunately opening our transfer business to the Web is always going to be a handicap to us.
There are positives and negatives about MyFC - I like the positives and I will live with the negatives. In how many other clubs do over 9000 people have the option to decide whether to extend the manager's contract or buy and sell players - or decide the budget. MyFC is getting better - the members are learning the ropes and as time goes on things will improve. Balancing the budget is an important aspect of that as EUFC are probably the only club within the BSP that have no debt and have the potential to be financially stable this season. And despite the level of the playing budget members and supporters have already increased it by over £700 a week (at least two players) - proposals have been outlined to raise enough to add another £500-£600 and we will be outlining two further proposals shortly that could do the same again. Instead of a gross £5000 a week we could be heading towards £7000 and with a push all around could even get it higher.
Yes, there are disadvantages to the MyFc form of ownership, but we should not forget that most other forms are far from perfect also, given time (and a bit of support), this might yet prove to be the best way forward for clubs like the Fleet!
Here's hoping
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Sorry to be pessimistic about this, but I think we are following the wrong approach here. Professional Sport can’t be run to exactly the same financial principles as other businesses. The ‘sport’ means taking a risk or gamble or two to some extent. We have all agreed that the numbers attending home matches are the answer to long term stability and success. But raising entrance prices at this time, drastically cutting playing budgets and loosing our most experienced staff (both players and admin.) don’t give me the feeling that we will have much chance of success in the coming season and to be honest I can’t see how we can expect to raise gates or members this way. So we will most likely end fighting a relegation battle at the end of the season and be in a much worst financial position (if we are unsuccessful and relegated) than we are now! IMO this doesn’t inspire new people to join or new supporters to come and watch.
If we had to reduce the running costs we should have phased it in over several seasons, this would have given the team and the club some chance of gaining something in one or more of the competitions and wiping out any debt with the chance of reversing the cutbacks, as things stand now I see very little chance of this happening. If we appear weak we will not be attractive to good new players (Senior or Youth) and this will make the manager’s job even tougher. We will leave ourselves open to the possibility of loosing the few good players we do have left as we have seen with the MG and DC bids.
While I do understand the budget prudence shown by the likes of Dom and others in trying to balance the clubs books (and I believe the vast majority of MyFc members left do have the best interests of the club at heart) I think their financial concept is wrong for a football club - and will simply head for a fall, with the result being just the opposite to what they are trying to achieve!
I would also like to see us rethink the structure of having two club boards (derisive and splitting IMO) and look to appoint MyFc reps too the EUFC Board and dispose of the MyFc one. But also doubt this will happen.Posted 1 year ago # -
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Login to Send PMI would also like to see us rethink the structure of having two club boards (derisive and splitting IMO) and look to appoint MyFc reps too the EUFC Board and dispose of the MyFc one.
That would mean that the MyFC Society didn't exist anymore. It's an independent organisation, it isn't the same as the club.
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I understand your views on this Sal, but I don't necessarily see this as being the case.I would also like to see us rethink the structure of having two club boards (derisive and splitting IMO) and look to appoint MyFc reps too the EUFC Board and dispose of the MyFc one.
That would mean that the MyFC Society didn't exist anymore. It's an independent organisation, it isn't the same as the club.
It was originally stated that the MyFc Board would be for the users of the forums to input their thoughts to the football club, and pass back information to the membership, though their elected representatives.
Although the MyFc Board Members have tried hard in this, I don’t see it as a complete success for various reasons (some);
1) The vast majority of MyFc members don’t use the forums to any great extent (so it tends to end up as a talking shop for a few and not representing the views of the majority anyhow)
2) It has (rightly or wrongly) given many Fleet supporters and some MyFc members the feeling of a ‘them and us’ situation.
3) It has not been possible to convey important decisions back and forth to MyFc members, before the news has already broken in the media or on other sites. (except in a few limited occasions)
4) Can’t think of any major decision it has made to the football club, that couldn’t have been made on the EUFC Board, with MyFc members sitting.I know it would require changes to the MyFc Rules, but I disagree that the Society would cease to exist. There could still be AGM ‘s when members would simply vote their representatives onto the EUFC Board. If MyFc members didn’t get the feedback they required from their elected members, they could vote them out and replace them with those who could. This way the members would hold 75% of the voting rights to the Recognised Board running EUFC via their elected representatives and the clashes and upsets between the two boards and two sets of fans would largely disappear. To my mind this doesn’t devalue the rights of MyFc members nor remove their executive powers over the way either club is run. But it does go a long way to removing the ‘us and them’ syndrome and that would benefit all IMO.
I would not have any problems either with changing the concept further, by having MyFc members known as decision making and voting Fleet supporters – which any Fleet Supporter could become, if they wished, by paying an extra £35 per year.Posted 1 year ago # -
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Login to Send PMI think there's aspects to the Society, jimbo that aren't all about EUFC. Its internal processes aren't club business, although those things have been put in the shadow recently because of the financial challenges faced by the club (which I acknowledge is directly linked to the failure of the Society to retain most of the original members). I do think club and Society are closely entwined now, of course, but I also think that good governance dictates that they should remain separate.
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My take is that the evolution of MYFC will see the core membership decrease gradually to around 6,000, all of whom will be keen, enthusiastic members. By that time, the ethos of MYFC will be accepted by a majority of ordinary Fleet fans, who will not see an 'us ' and 'them' situation, but will regard #myfc as a collective guardian of the finances and decision making. Simultaneously, I can see MYFC moving fiurther into the EUFC management fold by having a number of integrated board members.
This won't happen overnight, trust has to earned - by both sides. I just get the feeling after the revelations and upheavals of the last 6 weeks, there is a glimmer of early signs of trust starting to show.Posted 1 year ago # -
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Login to Send PMYou are right that membership will continue to fall over the course of this year, unless those in positions of power in MyFC are able to bring about a miracle. The problem is, at the moment there seems to be a handful of MyFC members who claim to be speaking for "the silent majority". By virtue of their silence, no-one can speak for them because no-one knows what is in their minds. This isn't the original vision - early joiners never envisaged that the meaningful decision-making would be taking place behind closed doors by a small number of members, and that the vast majority of members would never get even the smallest chance to experience what it's like to truly "own" a club. So maybe MyFC was just a good idea, which was tried, which failed and which will become something other than what we all hoped it would be.
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Login to Send PM10K plus Sodje would be about right.
That would be about right if it was me they were buying.
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