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Seen This....

1. 

   kaizen Member
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   ... from the other side..:

   "A New Club
   A Possible Way Forward
   published : 09:00 by very tenables

   can I ask the board if they would allow a proposal through that said we should consider donating our majority shareholding back to the club, to sell to who they felt fit, with a preferential offer to the fans?

   the outline of the plan being :

   myfc maintain seat(s) on the board according to its %age share
   myfc undertakes to fund the quarterly fl payments,
   myfc is granted a groundshare and part use of the clubhouse for the same time as the lease free of charge
   myfc is allowed to publish here all events effecting myfc
   myfc create a new club in the Kent leagues, NB they are creating a new league in Kent to cover all levels of the pyramid
   myfc would have no influence over EUFC football team
   myfc would work with eufc to improve facilities , maintain grading, assist with maintenance costs
   myfc would assist in putting in place facilities for live stream, audio broadcasting, web conferences

   what do EUFC get?

   The FL payments paid.
   Control back at the club over ticketing, playing budget, Eufcs budget.
   Cash support for stadium and facility improvements.
   Keeps contact with Myfc and their members, many who would maintain their current donations and match support to the club.
   A Myfc owned football club using the main facilities , and possibly fringe/youth Eufc players may get 90 minutes of senior football.
   After the myfc home games the delayed away eufc match could be shown in the bar.

   how would this make Myfc look?

   It would have kept a club going for two seasons that may have folded, it would have allowed the club to choose its destiny in new ownership, and created a new club to help Kent football have a competition at every league step.
   If fleet trust and other fans can get the cash they could buy a controlling or significant share.

   Could a new club be formed?
   Yes we have members who have experience here, many members are familiar with step 7 south east football, we have business men who would sponsor at this level.
   we may have a few players!
   Players would relish playing at SBR, coaches would love it, call it Gravesham Borough FC or similar and locals may come, the council may enjoy some publicity.
   All the original myfc ideals could be put in.
   livestream home and away, should be possible
   coach and team communication , PTT 100%, control within the membership fully.
   Every one who deals with the new club does so knowing the details will be published."

   Posted 5 months ago #
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   Jeff Member
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   It's embarrasing really isn't it?

   I saw something last week suggesting that the Fleet merge with Dartford.

   These people have NO IDEA.

   Posted 5 months ago #
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   Hirsty Member
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   You shouldn't really criticise people for coming up with ideas as to the way forward. If it's an alternative to bankruptcy then it can't be a bad thing....in fact, I have seen worse ideas. We get our club back, MyFC take care of the FL millstone and start their own team where they can utilise PTT ( which is what they should have done in the first place....maybe ?)....everyone's happy. even JP !!!

   I have just put on my bulletproof vest by the way !

   Cheers,

   Posted 5 months ago #
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   kaizen Member
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   It's certainly an interesting idea.... could work

   Posted 5 months ago #
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   Blanc Train Game King
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   You shouldn't really criticise people for coming up with ideas as to the way forward. If it's an alternative to bankruptcy then it can't be a bad thing....in fact, I have seen worse ideas. We get our club back, MyFC take care of the FL millstone and start their own team where they can utilise PTT ( which is what they should have done in the first place....maybe ?)....everyone's happy. even JP !!!
   I have just put on my bulletproof vest by the way !
   Cheers,

   I agree

   Posted 5 months ago #
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   190GKN Member
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   Theres a lot of argument on there about Myfc taking on the FL debt, I posted to say why should they not take it with them when it appears they saddled the club with it in the first place ! There are also many posts from members stating if Myfc alleniate themselves from EUFC they will leave Myfc, Many members also feel that if myfc seperate from EUFC they should form another club elsewhere and not at SBR.
   Another can of worms opened, this proposal has already gained quite a few seconders and is likely to go to a vote.

   Posted 5 months ago #
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   philmoss Member
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   Whilst I agree this would get MyFC out of EUFC (and I'm only a Fleet fan because I was an original MyFC member), the £100k per year MyFC has put into the EUFC coffers in the last two seasons will have to come from somewhere else. Are individual supporters prepared to stick their hands in their pockets to cover this, or is the Fleet Trust prepared to undertake this fund raising responsibility?

   I know a reduced expenditure budget will reduce the burden, but if the locals (and I'm now one of those too!) 'reclaim' EUFC, then we have to ensure its survival and that means hard cash.

   Also, if "MyFC FC" do want to ground share at San Stonebridge, the fixtures will be a nightmare to arrange. BSP and BSS fixtures are always on the move, so it could be tricky to ensure that there isn't a clash or games on consecutive days. Got to give Peter some time with his pitch.

   Posted 5 months ago #
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   Jeff Member
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   It's another get out clause for MyFC not being able to do what it said on the tin.

   A bit like Will Brooks and his £15k.

   Who will go and watch this new team playing at Stonebridge Road?

   Not like people are queuing down the road to watch the Fleet is it?

   Posted 5 months ago #
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   Harry J Allstars Member
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   This is classic MyFC. They're so obsessed with radicalising football they don't see that it simply can't work.

   They're like a mad scientist who tries again and again to get one of their mad schemes to work that they don't realise it never will and that their life is slipping away from them.

   Quite sad really.

   Posted 5 months ago #
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    David_Holden Member
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    Whilst I agree this would get MyFC out of EUFC (and I'm only a Fleet fan because I was an original MyFC member), the £100k per year MyFC has put into the EUFC coffers in the last two seasons will have to come from somewhere else. Are individual supporters prepared to stick their hands in their pockets to cover this, or is the Fleet Trust prepared to undertake this fund raising responsibility?

    It's actually only 60K per year Phil as 40K goes straight into Fleet Leisure. Still a large amount but less daunting without that extra zero on the end.

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    GaryG Member
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    Is some of this critisizing just because the idea was generated on the MYFC forum? It seems to me (and a few others I know whom only read this forum rather than posting) that some posters are influenced far too much by the origin of the idea as opposed to what the idea actually consists of!! Just a thought!!!!

    For the record, I think parts of the idea are worth pursueing and some parts not!!!

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Riverview Supporter Member
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    If no one wants to buy the MYFC shares ,cCan MYFC setup a new club if they have a 75% stake in another club?

    Or if EUFC went belly up because MYFC refused to fund , can they set up a new club?

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    David_Holden Member
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    If no one wants to buy the MYFC shares ,cCan MYFC setup a new club if they have a 75% stake in another club?

    The scheme is based around the MyFc shares being returned to the club, so it's a non point.

    Or if EUFC went belly up because MYFC refused to fund , can they set up a new club?

    If EUFC ceased to exist, I can see nothing to stop them.

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Hempstead Gaz Moderator
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    Didn't Loose ad Darter do this.
    Until they listened to UU!

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    2manyusernames Member
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    Is some of this critisizing just because the idea was generated on the MYFC forum? It seems to me (and a few others I know whom only read this forum rather than posting) that some posters are influenced far too much by the origin of the idea as opposed to what the idea actually consists of!! Just a thought!!!!
    For the record, I think parts of the idea are worth pursueing and some parts not!!!

    You're defending MyFC? How dare you. It's people like you who don't care about the real fans. I bet you've got a job too. Traitor.

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    David_Holden Member
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    Didn't Loose ad Darter do this.
    Until they listened to UU!

    Sorry, you've lost me here.

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Hirsty Member
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    This is classic MyFC. They're so obsessed with radicalising football they don't see that it simply can't work.
    They're like a mad scientist who tries again and again to get one of their mad schemes to work that they don't realise it never will and that their life is slipping away from them.
    Quite sad really.

    You are always free to come up with some ideas of your own to get us out of the brown & smelly !

    Cheers,

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Harry J Allstars Member
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    This is classic MyFC. They're so obsessed with radicalising football they don't see that it simply can't work.
    They're like a mad scientist who tries again and again to get one of their mad schemes to work that they don't realise it never will and that their life is slipping away from them.
    Quite sad really.

    You are always free to come up with some ideas of your own to get us out of the brown & smelly !
    Cheers,

    You got any?

    Thought not.....

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Hempstead Gaz Moderator
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    Started Southill Alexander from scratch as a members club, groundsharing, and using myfc as a starting model, starting at level 7.
    There are similarites to the proposed new club and SA.
    I think there are some merits in the idea, though.

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Hirsty Member
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    Ah ha....answer a question with a question.....you should be in politics mate.

    No, I haven't got a suggestion for a way of making a silk purse out of a sow's ear......but then I don't immediately slag off any suggestions that may come up from others. You should get rid of that large chip on your shoulder ( or has it now become a large bag of King Edwards ?).......there will be another Board along soon for you to join....I am sure of it !!

    Cheers,

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    Harry J Allstars Member
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    Ah ha....answer a question with a question.....you should be in politics mate.
    No, I haven't got a suggestion for a way of making a silk purse out of a sow's ear......but then I don't immediately slag off any suggestions that may come up from others. You should get rid of that large chip on your shoulder ( or has it now become a large bag of King Edwards ?).......there will be another Board along soon for you to join....I am sure of it !!
    Cheers,

    I didn't immediately slag it off, I gave it 24 hours thought.

    I just don't think it's a very good idea Hirsty, or am I not allowed to have an opinion?

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Hirsty Member
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    ...of course you are allowed to have an opinion....isn't everyone ?

    Cheers,

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    David_Holden Member
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    ...of course you are allowed to have an opinion....isn't everyone ?
    Cheers,

    Does it have to be my own, or can I use somebody else's?

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    very tenables Member
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    hi all.

    Im jeff hamnett very tenables.

    My proposal!

    its one way that Myfc can relinquish control of EUfc and still keep going itself, whilst paying off the debt it created and helping with ground and infrastructure improvements/maintenance.

    It is a compromise idea, it is at very early stages of preparation, and may never see the light of day anyway.

    Everyone needs to try something to keep the whole thing going, this is my current effort.

    What do you think about the part of selling shares to the fans at a preferential rate?

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    kaizen Member
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    Hi Jeff, i'm the one who reproduced it over here!

    I think it's an interesting idea, well worth chewing the cud over and at least shows you're trying! It's got the potential to be discussed and developed and is a good starting point.

    Well, that's my point of view. Wonder if Hirsty's finished with that body armour yet....

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    V Member
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    It's one way MyFC can become the Fleet Trust and yet keep paying £40K a year to the old owners for nothing. It hasn't got a hope Jeff.

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Riverview Supporter Member
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    If no one wants to buy the MYFC shares ,cCan MYFC setup a new club if they have a 75% stake in another club?

    The scheme is based around the MyFc shares being returned to the club, so it's a non point.

    Or if EUFC went belly up because MYFC refused to fund , can they set up a new club?

    If EUFC ceased to exist, I can see nothing to stop them.

    Assuming the club wants em back. Will it be a case of heres the shares goodbye or will someone have to take responsibility.

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Hirsty Member
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    Permenantly in armour these days, just in case !!!

    Subject to the whys & wherefores etc...... VT's proposal isn't the worst that I have heard, in fact is sounds quite good to me. But I am only Joe Punter. We would need comments from the likes of Duncan & Phil etc. to confirm if it is something that can be worked with, should Myfc pass it.

    V....you would get your new team to piss about with all you want....isn't that what was required from the outset ? Rook to Knight's Bishop 2 ( or whatever the move is !).

    I may be interested in buying a few shares ( if a U turn is good enough for Golden Brown then surely I am allowed one ?).....I may even "dump" the seat in trap 2 of FL.

    Await further development with interest...

    Cheers,

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Hirsty Member
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    ...of course you are allowed to have an opinion....isn't everyone ?
    Cheers,

    Does it have to be my own, or can I use somebody else's?

    Very cynical Sir Dave ?!

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    very tenables Member
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    MYfc shares should be sold by the club and they should keep the proceeds.

    Little point just moving them from one name to another the idea is it will bring in more funds for the club.

    Posted 5 months ago #

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