Does anyone else think the cost of 8 quid for a kid is far to much, i know the season ticket works out fantastic value, but i know several people over the last few weeks that have turned a trip out on match days coz of this cost. not everyone buys season tickets, so we are surely missing out on the floating fan/ spur of the minute fan. adult cost maybe maybe not right, but in order to get that 15 quid through the door we have to atract that extra one half...
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Posted 10 months ago #
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This has been done to death, but you're right. By raising the prices we seem to have lost a lot of the casual fans and that was always going to happen.
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We will be launching the £2 discount voucher scheme at the Wimbledon game. Discount vouchers will be handed out during half time at this game to all home fans for future home league games. Plus the vouchers will begin to appear in various outlets throughout the Ebbsfleet area. In theory every future home game this season shouldn't cost a local more than £13.
It will be interesting to see if there is any rise in the core home attendance.
In addition we should look at one off special deals for the some of the Tuesday evening games such as Kids Free, all voucher holders £10, Ladies for a £1 etc. Some of these may not be practical and would have an impact on the goodwill of the loyal season ticket holders but we need to generate interest around price.
We know that the free game last year attracted 3700 - therefore price does have an impact.
To back this up we need to promote through effective press releases to the local press.
The Fleet Trust BOS (bums on seats) intiative will be following these ideas up.
Posted 10 months ago # -
We're not the only ones looking at our prices currently
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/stevenage/8242433.stm
Posted 10 months ago # -
We will be launching the £2 discount voucher scheme at the Wimbledon game. Discount vouchers will be handed out during half time at this game to all home fans for future home league games. Plus the vouchers will begin to appear in various outlets throughout the Ebbsfleet area. In theory every future home game this season shouldn't cost a local more than £13.
It will be interesting to see if there is any rise in the core home attendance.
In addition we should look at one off special deals for the some of the Tuesday evening games such as Kids Free, all voucher holders £10, Ladies for a £1 etc. Some of these may not be practical and would have an impact on the goodwill of the loyal season ticket holders but we need to generate interest around price.
We know that the free game last year attracted 3700 - therefore price does have an impact.
To back this up we need to promote through effective press releases to the local press.As a season ticket holder, I have no objection to the price reduction efforts Milesy.
I don't think ladies for a £1 is a good idea however, i think this is discriminatory.
The Fleet Trust BOS (bums on seats) intiative will be following these ideas up.Posted 10 months ago # -
future home game this season shouldn't cost a local more than £13.
It will be interesting to see if there is any rise in the core home attendance.£13 is still the same price as last year though... and this time they're being discounted to come at that price. For the sake of the club I hope it helps, but I'm not sure. If there is a rise in the core home attendance it certainly won't be a person more than our average of last year. In theory it can't.
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£13 is still the same price as last year though... and this time they're being discounted to come at that price. For the sake of the club I hope it helps, but I'm not sure. If there is a rise in the core home attendance it certainly won't be a person more than our average of last year. In theory it can't.
You are right. The £13 just gets us back to where we were and hopefully it may add a few more to this years gates but with more people out of work it cetainly won't get us back to last years attendances.
£13 will be too high for many games this year and we need to look at mucher bigger discounts or initiatives to get numbers seriously up. As I said in my original post this is, at last, being looked at. Pity this didn't happen before the season got underway!
However don't forget the club will benefit from the big away fan numbers expected who won't get the benefit of the discount vouchers. Wimbledon are bringing 1500 who will pay the xtra £2 - an additional £3000 in the clubs coffers! Luton will bring a similar number I am sure.
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We have lost the casual fan already and now need to do something special to get them back again.
I fear this costly mistake might be something we don't recover from for a long time.Posted 10 months ago # -
But we can't win Steve, for the Wimbledon game and probaby the Luton game as you know we have had to make contingency plans to accommodate the extra away fans, this will bring in much needed revenue to the club, yet I understand when Paul Jarvis and yourself took the flyers around to explain that for just these 2 games we are going to have to give up part of the ground to the away fans you were subject to loads of abuse and the club was called all the names under the sun, I heard that one fan even said "I have stood in this same place for 40 years, I won't be renewing next season", work it out, 1500 Wimbledon fans @ £15 = £22,500, that is the equivalent of putting the price up by £1-00 for every Fleet fan for every home game in a season, so I urge all the fans, please be tolerant for these 2 games and assist us in getting this extra revenue in without too much hassle
Posted 10 months ago # -
Rugbyswift on MyFC summed it all up perfectly:
The starts of the season has seen a big drop in home attendance to date with the home paying gate being down by between 200-300 on the same time last season.
So far this season on match day revenues we have taken £51,272.38 agaisnt a budgeted revenue of £75,312.50. This in itself is very worrying as after only five games in this season we are already £25,000 down on budget, this will equate to over £100,000 over the season if something doesn't change quickly. For referenance this time last year (i.e. after 7 home fixtures) we had a turnover of £81,510.92 and this did not include any revenues from Catering as the facilities were not in place.
Worrying times
Posted 10 months ago # -
Of course we have to accomodate the away fans in these two games and any others for that matter (Luton or the dons in one of the cups ?) The club needs the revenue, Regards the local support yes of course they showed up in numbers to the freeby last season against lower status opponents....Us Brits love a freeby, However, I firmly believe success on the pitch is what will bring in the fans irrespective of cost, Sadly, I am not too sure whether this will happen in the forseable future, If we were in Oxfords position at the moment the locals would be there in force every home game,
Posted 10 months ago # -
Rugbyswift on MyFC summed it all up perfectly:
The starts of the season has seen a big drop in home attendance to date with the home paying gate being down by between 200-300 on the same time last season.
So far this season on match day revenues we have taken £51,272.38 agaisnt a budgeted revenue of £75,312.50. This in itself is very worrying as after only five games in this season we are already £25,000 down on budget, this will equate to over £100,000 over the season if something doesn't change quickly. For referenance this time last year (i.e. after 7 home fixtures) we had a turnover of £81,510.92 and this did not include any revenues from Catering as the facilities were not in place.
Worrying timesIf we took £51,272 from the first FOUR home games this season that equates to £12,818 per game (average)
So, first SEVEN home games last season took £81,510 that equates to £11,644 per game (average) Game for game average is therefore up on last season, If we continue with average of £12.818 per game, by the time we have played a like for like 7 home games turnover will be £89,726 ie, up on last season by £8,216
The big relevant factor is of course who we are playing in the games in question for example our 6th home game this season is Wimbledon who will boost the gate (and turnover) considerably.Posted 10 months ago # -
Yes GKN, this is precisely why I am asking the fans to understand why we have to give up part of the ground to the Wimbledon fans, if we restricted it only the Swanscombe end then we would only 650 or so fans in, I of course understand that fans get used to watching a game in one place but in the case of the 2 games mentioned I urge understanding, it seems that almost daily for over a week now I am working on something to do with the Wimbledon game, this goes with the rest of the office staff as well.
Posted 10 months ago # -
I of course understand that fans get used to watching a game in one place but in the case of the 2 games mentioned I urge understanding,
i agree. I know some of my mates aren't coming in protest but what else can we do? To be honest, we only have ourselves to blame. If our local fanbase was higher we could have the luxury of restricting away fans but when they travel in greater away numbers than we often get at home, then i think we have to take this route now and again.
of course im not blaming those loyal fans that come every week and stand where they always have they're the most loyal ones. But we aren't in a position to turn down the revenue because our local support is so poor. Unless they're getting in for nothing.
Posted 10 months ago # -
Just to clarify my figures above:
There has been seven home games this season (including friendlies)
The seven home games last season include friendlies.
Posted 10 months ago # -
I have started a proposal on myfc to get the price dropped back to £13 , i would also like to state that it should not affect all the good work Milsey has done and i believe we should still run the discount voucher idea
If you are a myfc member and agree please feel free to pop over and express your opinion and on here of course
Here is what i put
Lets Put the price Back Please
I would like to propose in light of the poor attendances in the first 7 home games that we as a unique project and a supposed want to be different to all other clubs club we re vote and vote that the current match day entrance fee be put back to £13 per game.
I know all the big worded forum users are going to come on and say we voted for it so it should stay as it is and those that worked on getting the price put up in the first place will have there say well I'm having mine and i honestly think we are big a strong enough to have a new vote over ruling the previous vote and get the word out that we are different and we are trying to help the supporters in very very difficult financial times lets try not do our usual bickering for weeks and 20 pages of we did this he said that lets just be brave in the face of a current problem and get this sorted and publicized asap. I hope you will just support this proposal and show myfc are a modern way of working together
Spencer (a concerned supporter)
Posted 10 months ago # -
The whole idea of raising the prices and counteracting them with vouchers was flawed from the outset.
If anything, it should have been properly thought through and planned before being implemented.
The results and performances on the pitch are not helping either to be fair.
Attendance prediction for tonight is mid 700's from me.
Posted 10 months ago # -
It is painfully obvious that the price change has caused a large drop in home attendence. It is all good well getting as many away fans in, but when the home fans arn't bothering i feel it won't make much of a difference. I feel that we need to decrease the price back to £13, but fear we may of already lost the casual fan.
Posted 10 months ago # -
Just to clarify my figures above:
There has been seven home games this season (including friendlies)
The seven home games last season include friendlies.Apologies Rugbyswift, I did not realise you had included friendlies.
Posted 10 months ago # -
What I find amazing about the whole price fiasco is that those who propsed the "base price" ideal have left it to others (BOSS) to sort out the discount...
Time for those who pushed for the increase to admit they got it wrong, and vote for the reduction back to £13.
From figures that were posted here - first home game of season had only 170+ people paying full price. Therefore £350 would have been lost. IF (it is a big IF) the club can get 30 people to return and watch due to the reduction, then the discount will have paid for itself.It has been said a few times that performance on the pitch affects attendance. Unfortuntely, the situation is the other way around - the low attendance will lead to a low playing budget which in turn will lead to a poor performance. Hopefully by increasing the number of people who turn up, the budget will be able to be increased and better quality players will lead to better performances
Posted 10 months ago # -
Time for those who pushed for the increase to admit they got it wrong,
Don't hold your breath Pat. It's a steep learning curve or summat.
Posted 10 months ago # -
What I find amazing about the whole price fiasco is that those who propsed the "base price" ideal have left it to others (BOSS) to sort out the discount...
Time for those who pushed for the increase to admit they got it wrong, and vote for the reduction back to £13.
From figures that were posted here - first home game of season had only 170+ people paying full price. Therefore £350 would have been lost. IF (it is a big IF) the club can get 30 people to return and watch due to the reduction, then the discount will have paid for itself.
It has been said a few times that performance on the pitch affects attendance. Unfortuntely, the situation is the other way around - the low attendance will lead to a low playing budget which in turn will lead to a poor performance. Hopefully by increasing the number of people who turn up, the budget will be able to be increased and better quality players will lead to better performancesThats the big problem Patman those that have put it together and voted for the increase are not man enough to admit it was wrong and put them back , they all think they really are in the goverment
We need to put it back to £13 and THEN do the voucher incentives but as it is against the bigger worded forum users it wont happen they prefer to just argue about it rather than deal with it
I have always supported the work that Milsey and the BOSS work but the voucher / buy them early idea should have been set up and in place for the start of the season to see if it worked
Posted 10 months ago # -
Surprise, surprise yet another cock-up by the MyFC membership.
Last season it was the £10k, weekly playing budget. A figure that was totally unsustainable for a club like the 'Fleet and was one if not the cause for such a drastic playing budget cut this season. Now forgotten and conveniently swept under the carpet.
This season a 14% increase in the cost of admission to Stonebridge Road. 14% increase at the time when there is 0% inflation, when more and more people are finding themselves out of work and at time when sensible businesses are maintaining previous admission charges or in some cases even reducing them just to keep 'customers' walking through the doors. Voted in by MyFC members, the majority of which will never have to pay it, because they will never ever attend a home match.
If MyFC is still around next year, and God I hope they aren't, I wonder what wonderful little gems will be thought up by then. One thing is for sure you can guarantee it will not be to the benefit of the club or the club's local supporters.
Quite clearly MyFC is an organistaion that doesn't learn from its mistakes, how many more years do they need to reach the top of their 'learning curve''?
Posted 10 months ago # -
What I don't understand about the increase in the first place is how this sort of situaiton with losing fans wasn't considered. It was the most obvious thing that was going to happen.
It was if the mindest was "Extra £2 = extra money!" but surely MyFC members aren't so silly to think the same amount of people were going to turn up and pay that extra £2?
Now it seems we have an ever bigger battle. Last season we were trying to get in new fans. This season we're trying to claw back fans that we've lost. Downhill...
Posted 10 months ago # -
but surely MyFC members aren't so silly to think the same amount of people were going to turn up and pay that extra £2?
I think you'll find they are Hannah.
Posted 10 months ago # -
Loosly put , the 400 or so fans who pay on the gate add an extra £ 800 to the income - offset but a loss of around £3000 from the absent 200.
Posted 10 months ago # -
Just to put this into some kind of perspective... And forgive me if my thought train wanders...
The MyFC members who promoted/pushed this £2 increase were expecting what? Three hundred, maybe four hundred pay on the gate fans to stump this up, therefore the club gets an extra £600-£800 for each league fixture.
Amazingly tho - in a matter of DAYS they can pledge £300 THOUSAND to buy something, ie Stonebridge Raod site.
And while I understand that having somewhere to play is kinda important - something here is ringing a little alarm bell...
Posted 10 months ago # -
It baffles me... wasn't this inevitability discussed on the MyFC forums? If so, why was it still voted for?
Posted 10 months ago # -
Amazingly tho - in a matter of DAYS they can pledge £300 THOUSAND to buy something, ie Stonebridge Raod site.
And while I understand that having somewhere to play is kinda important - something here is ringing a little alarm bell...That has really confused me too. I'm amazed at the amount, and bravo, but how on earth was that amount raised compared with the budget pledge??
Posted 10 months ago # -
It baffles me... wasn't this inevitability discussed on the MyFC forums? If so, why was it still voted for?
Whilst I am sure it was discussed, not being a MyFC member I cannot be sure of this having no access to their talking shop, it would seem that potential problems were ignored like most of the totally blinkered decisons that are made by this organisation.
Don't forget according to many that do have access to their forums any form of desent normally gets at least a slapped wrist, so on that basis perhaps nobody dare raise the possibility of this decision having such drastic effects on attendances.
Either way they made the decision and as yet no one from the heiarchy of MyFC has had the guts to stand up and say it was an error of judgement. Just perhaps they are still thinking that the decision was a correct one.
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