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Discuss the future of the football club

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  1. John Pearce

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    I have just noticed that the original thread has been locked. What is this censorship gone mad ???

    At this point in time the subject being dicussed and debated on this particular thread is about the most important thing surrounding this football club, its very existence?

    Yes there may be accusations and recriminations, but that aside this forum is there for the debate of everything surrounding the football club. Surely there is nothing more important to discuss and/or debate then whether the clubs continues to exist not just in the medium to long term but after the 19th. February. This very thread has already brought to light at least one contributing factor as to why the club is in the financial mess it would appear to be in and one that would appear to have been swept away under the carpet like many of the things that surround MyFC, in the hope that it would go away.

    If we are unable to debate and discuss matters as serious as this, the life or death of the football club, then what is this forum for ? This forum's very existence becomes absolutely pointless and as such might just as well cease to exist.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  2. AFFNo1

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    Unfortunately John, a certain persons propaganda was becoming libellous. Perhaps banning or removing that persons posts might have been a better solution!

    Posted 7 months ago #
  3. Hempstead Gaz

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    I locked it last night John.
    As Les said, there were a couple of post that might have been contrued as libellous.
    Clearly the recipient (and Fleet director) thought so too.
    I am not a legal expert, but know a bit about libel, so I closed it.
    I am very happy to let this thread continue.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  4. Riverview Supporter

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    Gary

    Can you close this thread please , as people may associate by the title that any allegations were/are made by the trust and they are not.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  5. harry j allstars

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    Thread title edited accordingly.

    Please use this thread to discuss the future of the club.

    Any libellous comments will be removed and most likely see the poster banned.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  6. kaizen

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    Well said HJA

    Posted 7 months ago #
  7. AFFNo1

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    Well said HJA

    Look at the second post!

    Posted 7 months ago #
  8. Hempstead Gaz

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    Thanks Paul - I was at a French Bistro at bluewater, couldn't do it.
    How DO you change a thread title, btw?

    Posted 7 months ago #
  9. kaizen

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    Well said HJA

    Look at the second post!

    Umm err...., should have gone to Specsavers....

    Posted 7 months ago #
  10. harry j allstars

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    Thanks Paul - I was at a French Bistro at bluewater, couldn't do it.
    How DO you change a thread title, btw?

    Edit the first post in the thread.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  11. Hempstead Gaz

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    Ta.

    Posted 7 months ago #
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    The future's bright, in fact we should play in Orange

    Oh Dear, I'll get my coat

    Posted 7 months ago #
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    I apologise for the initial thread going off topic.
    I don't mind people having an opinion about what I do and have done for the football club as that is a subjective issue where we can debate the rights and wrongs.
    What I won't have is people questioning my integrity (even worse when it is the anonymous and legally easier format of an internet forum where people don't have the bollocks or facts to back themselves up).
    I can take criticism but not my honesty being taken into account.
    My family, friends, employees, people I do business with, councillors I work with for the betterment of the club and some of you fans who know me and see me down the club read these forums.
    It is simply not right that anonymous and sad people can have the effect of the above calling me and saying have you seen that so and so is libelling you.
    People with no credibility and no facts like Doheochai who come out with the crap he does on here relating to me is quite simply not right. Doh wants me to engage in private e-mails with him. I'm not that sad and nor do I need to.
    He has made false insuations about me publicly from his Internet Ivory Tower in County Clare so I think he owes you EUFC Forum users, who I assume are mainly fans of our football club, to finally back them up.
    He won't though, because he can't.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  14. Hirsty

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    Thanks Paul - I was at a French Bistro at bluewater, couldn't do it.
    How DO you change a thread title, btw?

    French Bistro ?? As you said that you couldn't afford a burger at San Stonebridge then I assume that you were either a waiter or doing the washing up ?? Or....seeing as you mentioned the French Bistro, are you the Fleet's answer to Hyacinth Bucket ? You'll be inviting Liam & Duncan to one of your candlelight suppers next !!

    Cheers,

    Onslow.

    PS....sorry Hannah......I blame the two halves of mild I had earlier in the day !

    Posted 7 months ago #
  15. Hempstead Gaz

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    I apologise for the initial thread going off topic.
    I don't mind people having an opinion about what I do and have done for the football club as that is a subjective issue where we can debate the rights and wrongs.
    What I won't have is people questioning my integrity (even worse when it is the anonymous and legally easier format of an internet forum where people don't have the bollocks or facts to back themselves up).
    I can take criticism but not my honesty being taken into account.
    My family, friends, employees, people I do business with, councillors I work with for the betterment of the club and some of you fans who know me and see me down the club read these forums.
    It is simply not right that anonymous and sad people can have the effect of the above calling me and saying have you seen that so and so is libelling you.
    People with no credibility and no facts like Doheochai who come out with the crap he does on here relating to me is quite simply not right. Doh wants me to engage in private e-mails with him. I'm not that sad and nor do I need to.
    He has made false insuations about me publicly from his Internet Ivory Tower in County Clare so I think he owes you EUFC Forum users, who I assume are mainly fans of our football club, to finally back them up.
    He won't though, because he can't.

    .
    I suspect all true Fleet fans are aware that Doh's claims are unsustainable .
    Due dligence from Will's team no doubt looked at eery penny Fleet had or was spending.
    The line was crossed, I locked the thread (and should have deleted it)
    It's just a shame that not everyone at Myfc can sing from the same hymn sheet.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  16. Hempstead Gaz

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    Thanks Paul - I was at a French Bistro at bluewater, couldn't do it.
    How DO you change a thread title, btw?

    French Bistro ?? As you said that you couldn't afford a burger at San Stonebridge then I assume that you were either a waiter or doing the washing up ?? Or....seeing as you mentioned the French Bistro, are you the Fleet's answer to Hyacinth Bucket ? You'll be inviting Liam & Duncan to one of your candlelight suppers next !!
    Cheers,
    Onslow.
    PS....sorry Hannah......I blame the two halves of mild I had earlier in the day !

    Belated birthday dinner, Hirsty.
    You wouldn't believe the sh*t birthday I had earlier this month..Flooded kitchen, wife with swine flu, deep snow, urgent drive to find tamiflu, kids off school, meal cancelled, and worst of all Fleet game snowed off.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  17. AFFNo1

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    Well said HJA

    Look at the second post!

    Umm err...., should have gone to Specsavers....

    I'm sure they will look after you!

    Posted 7 months ago #
  18. AFFNo1

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    I apologise for the initial thread going off topic.
    I don't mind people having an opinion about what I do and have done for the football club as that is a subjective issue where we can debate the rights and wrongs.
    What I won't have is people questioning my integrity (even worse when it is the anonymous and legally easier format of an internet forum where people don't have the bollocks or facts to back themselves up).
    I can take criticism but not my honesty being taken into account.
    My family, friends, employees, people I do business with, councillors I work with for the betterment of the club and some of you fans who know me and see me down the club read these forums.
    It is simply not right that anonymous and sad people can have the effect of the above calling me and saying have you seen that so and so is libelling you.
    People with no credibility and no facts like Doheochai who come out with the crap he does on here relating to me is quite simply not right. Doh wants me to engage in private e-mails with him. I'm not that sad and nor do I need to.
    He has made false insuations about me publicly from his Internet Ivory Tower in County Clare so I think he owes you EUFC Forum users, who I assume are mainly fans of our football club, to finally back them up.
    He won't though, because he can't.

    Perhaps you will realise why I christened him ******** (content deleted by mod)., Brian, right from his first bullsh*t post!

    Posted 7 months ago #
  19. Hannah

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    The thing is John, on that other thread... I don't know if it was just me but I felt uncomfortable reading doheochai's posts and can understand why Brain would be upset about what was said. This is an open forum and things are getting too heavy with the accusations and what the "facts" are. I know we're in a situation with this club where everyone can know everything about the ins and outs of the club (something I've never entirely liked the idea of anyway) but I don't think it's right place for the discussions to have no limiatations at all. I'm glad it was locked.

    This forum wouldn't be "pointless" without it, there is a game that goes on the pitch you know... We can discuss our opinions on club matters all we like but let's not let the free speech notion go too far because it could be damaging to some people and it's damaging to the club.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  20. AFFNo1

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    Back to the thread......................After todays surprising(to many) win , on the pitch things(without getting carried away) look promising, off the pitch, the next month will ptobably paint a clearer picture!

    Posted 7 months ago #
  21. Hempstead Gaz

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    Tbh, now we have doubled the number of strikers we are operating with, and now use 3 attacking midfielders, results such as today's and the FGR comeback(s) may become less of a shock.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  22. AFFNo1

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    Tbh, now we have doubled the number of strikers we are operating with, and now use 3 attacking midfielders, results such as today's and the FGR comeback(s) may become less of a shock.

    Now we have to stop shipping goals!
    Who'd be a manager?

    Posted 7 months ago #
  23. Hirsty

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    "Belated birthday dinner, Hirsty."

    Hope you had the Roasted Wood Pigeon Gaz......? Then it would be one less of the b*stards to sh*t on my patio !! Apologies for being off topic !

    Cheers,

    Posted 7 months ago #
  24. Hempstead Gaz

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    Got plenty of those damned things myself.
    They keep nicking the food I leave out for our nesting blue tits.

    Posted 7 months ago #
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    If as seems widely expected myfc membership levels fall by the end of February to a number that cannot sustain the current levels of funding given to the club, Then a complete restructuring of the running of the club will need doing urgently, As has been mentioned before the likelyhood of one individual coming forward is virtually zero, Therefore, the 75% ownership of the club with myfc will need a complete overhaul, I am not sure about the legal aspects of this, but, Should the worst happen could the society board recommend to the remaining members that the 75 % share owned by myfc be handed over to say Fleet Trust who would offer the shares for say £200 each or a figure to be decided, These shares being available to whoever wanted to buy.....former myfc members, Fleet fans and followers local and far afield. To fund future years all those buying an initial share(s) would undertake to pay a similar amount to their initial payment each subsequent year, A bit like myfc annual subscription but the shareholders would actually 'Own' the club and like any other club the owners have to invest as and when required to sustain the club over and above its income, again similar to myfc pledges and donations, The shareholders would elect representitives to sit on the EUFC board annually, And this board would run the club and report back say monthly/quarterly to the 'Shareholders' I am not sure who owns the remaining 25% of the shares in EUFC and whether the above would result in there being another controlling shareholder, which may be of some concern to many.

    One of my main concerns about the existing myfc system is the transparency it gives, Anyone can join and everything that is done is common knowledge to all ........Finances, player deals etc etc, all other clubs (Competitors in any other business expression) can find out what is going on within the club.
    If changes have to be made at the club then running it like a normal business with an elected board to handle the day to day affairs I feel is a neccessity.

    I feel the current board of EUFC and staff are doing an excellant job, Its the income source currently from myfc that will almost certainly need restructuring, which circumstances will very likely dictate happen sooner rather than later, I don't know if the above would work or can be done legally, But one thing is certain if myfc membership falls as expected we have to do something, The Manager and players are doing all they can to keep the club in the BSP, We have to do whatever is neccessary for the club to survive.

    If the 1000 or so regular local fans and maybe up to a couple of thousand of the 'supporters' who have followed the club via myfc over the last few years commit themselves to the cause we could be well on the way to making this club truely 'Owned by it's Fans'

    Posted 7 months ago #
  26. David_Holden

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    £200 each!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    that would value the club at around £1.5 billion pounds somewhat more than Manchester United.

    I think you meant 5p or 10p each which is stil 4.9p or 9.9p more than they are actually worth

    Posted 7 months ago #
  27. Hirsty

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    ........I still "own" the seat in trap two of Fleet Leisure Sir David........it gives me great comfort to know that my hard earned ( as it was then !) cash went to such a good cause !....still have to take my own bog roll though !!

    Cheers,

    Posted 7 months ago #
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    Good post 190GKN. We have to be aware that to keep the club alive, challenging decisions will have to be made if as is likely MyFC renewals fall drastically further. I only hope that someone behind the scenes is working on a plan B. Obviously a number of us local supporters are MyFC members but we can't provide all the financial support for the benefit of non locals, although there are a number of really strong MyFC supporters who clearly are not locals. It would be a shame to lose them.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  29. David_Holden

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    ........I still "own" the seat in trap two of Fleet Leisure Sir David........it gives me great comfort to know that my hard earned ( as it was then !) cash went to such a good cause !....still have to take my own bog roll though !!
    Cheers,

    You forget that I have a similar shareholding, you only own that seat on Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays, Tuesdays and Thursdays it's mine with joint ownership at weekends.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  30. Hirsty

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    Good point...well presented ! At least I get Wednesday....Wednesday....Wednesday !!!

    Cheers,

    Posted 7 months ago #

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